I too am surprised there hasn't been an updated version.
Amelia Ashton
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Reasoning from the scriptures, is there a plan to release a new version?
by insearchoftruth ini know that the section on last days is no where close to correct anymore with the 'overlapping generation' change, i am sure there are other discrepancies as well with the book.
shouldn't there be a new version of this coming out (or even better for those of us who are trying to find changes a 'change list' like what was done with the 'grand climax' book)?.
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Amelia Ashton
If that analogy was any good it would be that the teenager asked if he could go out and the parents said nothing and he waited and they stayed silent so he had to guess whether they heard and if the answer was yes or no and then make the decision himself.
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anyone wanna skype?
by thinking_1 ini haven't been able to actually talk to any "apostates" yet, haha.
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i'm not much of a poster, mostly read alot, but would like to have a good conversation..
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Amelia Ashton
I am amelia.ashton.brooke if anyone wants to skype me
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Amelia Ashton
For those who believe in a sky daddy the power of prayer can give them a belief that they will achieve something they might think on their own is impossible but this belief can help them achieve their goal in the same way a placebo will alleviate certain symptoms. The power of the mind is amazing even to the point of fooling ourselves.
So yes, prayer can have an effect in that we can achieve more than we believe we are capable of on our own.
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It was "evidence" of holy spirit that got me
by irondork inwhen i got disfellowshipped at age 19 for alcohol and sex with, uhm... several others, i deserved it.
after that i took a nose dive into drugs and alcohol and the whole nightclub party scene in wash. d.c.. it didnt take long for my life to start falling apart.. .
eveidence that leaving jehovahs organization was the wrong thing to do.. .
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Amelia Ashton
You make some very valid points sir82.
For a very brief amount of time working towards baptism and the belief a supernatural being cared about me and would be making the world a better place took my mind off other problems and the circumstances in which I was living. My depression lifted. At that time JWdom worked for me. I succeeded in giving up smoking and my life had a purpose other than earning enough to pay the bills and once they were paid earning enough to pay the next months.
Once that goal was achieved and the cracks began to show I know I put them to the back of my mind. I got very depressed again with feelings of worthlessness and thoughts that everyone else was better than me. When I discovered pioneers fudged their hours, elders didn't pay taxes and various other things I played the "imperfect men" card and fooled myself for a bit longer.
Once things became intolerable for me I realised it was not working for me but I still believed it was God's organisation and the problem was me. After missing the memorial of 2010 I believed it was God that had rejected me and not the other way round. Then I was able to look on this and other apostate sites and discover after not going to a meeting for a whole year and feeling dreadful guilt, that it was all a pack of lies.
It had stopped working for me.
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Prelude to a disfellowshipping
by rory-ks ini was 25 years a congregation member; ten years an elder; all told, up to 18 years an appointed man; a decade or so as a full-time minister; assembly speaker, with the pinnacle giving the public discourse at a district convention.. .
i stopped being an active member of the congregation in november 2010, but it had been brewing for several years, with the customary gradual drifting away - all the necessary mental gymnastics as my spiritual views changed and doubts set in; quitting the theocratic ministry school; ceasing to answer; sitting quietly off to the side.
i think the straw that broke the camels back was when family worship inevitably became family worship.
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Amelia Ashton
Welcome rory-ks
This is a brilliant place to discover WT BS, flip-flopping doctrines and make new friends. Friends who won't shun you because your belief in a god, deity or nature differs to theirs.
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What is the oldest language, Hebrew or Aramaic?
by TJ Curioso ini've read conflicting opinions about it..
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Amelia Ashton
It is more than probable that the oldest language was not ever in a written form so can only be speculated on. I don't think either Aramaic or Hebrew are the oldest but of the two Hebrew was first. That is just my belief though.
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Are Synapses an Example of Irreducible Complexity?
by cantleave inthis is a excellent video about the development complex neuro-circuits.
well worth watch all the way through.
i remember that along with the eye, synapses were often quoted as an example of irreducible complexity by jw's and other creationists, from 4:38 on this video there is a great explanation of why this is not so.
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Amelia Ashton
I remember being told it was less than 1% and the rest was there for memory, waiting to be filled up in the new system!
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Do the hours of the JW's reflect their actual preaching?
by justhuman inwhen i was watchtower witness and pioneer i recall how we used to abuse the hours at the field service.... getting up in the morning, and doing street work..after the street work going to the kindom hall for the field service, and the at the territory.
after finishing the territory continue some street work in order continue reporting the time.. so starting at 8.15 in the morning, then stop at 9.15 to drive to the kindom hall, and around 9.50 we were getting at the territory.
then after the 2 hours preaching(and usually 85%of the people were not home and the rest show no interest at all, and after 2 coffee brakes, finishing at 12.00. then going some street work at the center of the town until 1.00. so we used to report 5 hours!!!
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Amelia Ashton
Actual preaching time when you live in rural areas is probably even less than for those preaching in the city. We were told that even if we saw no-one which was often the angels saw what we were doing so that was a witness in itself!!!
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JW's 'put off living'
by Lady Viola ini was reading a book and read the following quote:.
"one of the most tragic things i know about human nature is.
that all of us tend to put off living.
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Amelia Ashton
I agree much of the time I would put off doing something that I expected to be able to do "in the new system".
Becoming a really proficient piano player was one of my goals. I already had the piano, just not the time required to really dedicate myself to learning it competently. However, I would never have had the courage to emmigrate with two young children to a foreign country without a belief that a superior being would take care of me once there.
If I had been an atheist back then I don't think I would have done it.